Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1977-06-09
This show is commercially available as "Winterland June 1977: The Complete Recordings "
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Subject: Farewell to you, oh Southern skies..
2nd Set best of the 3 nights.
Help on the Way to Terrapin
a real cosmic powderkeg.
Subject: nice loser
Subject: Nice setlist!
Subject: 77' frisco!!
Subject: The roof is gone!
I looked at the stage for confirmation just as a chunk of plaster fell from the ceiling landing at Phils feet. He nodded and grinned without missing a beat. It was a pivotal night that altered the trajectory of my life.
Subject: what Darrylizer said George Takei said...
Subject: What George Takei said...
Subject: One of my all time favorites
Subject: one of the BEST!
This show has my all time favorite versions of Mississippi Half Step, Loser, They Love Eachother and Music Never Stopped. I think the 1st set is actually better than the 2nd! Jerry's solo in Music Never Stopped IS ON FIRE ITS AMAZING. And his break on They Love Each Other is so on point and sophisticated...he doesn't miss a beat!
Buy this show from Dead.net you won't regret it!
- Neil, St. Louis MO
Subject: United States Blues
Subject: can someone please tell me how to download?
Subject: JustAFloatingSage said:
Thank you for sharing your perspective at this very special place where there is often a surplus of negativity!
Your light will forever shine on here in your show reviews...
Subject: JustAFloatingSage said:
Let me guess..is it because you are biploar??? Naw...you are an idiot as well if you don't know why your crying and your bipolar.
Subject: Thank You Charlie Miller
Subject: My first show
I miss the old Winterland, but not as much as we all miss the fat man.
Subject: ******* good audio
Subject: Floating Sage
Smile float on! this is one of the best of the best
Subject: Just Reflectin'
I don't believe in God anymore ... I can't get high anymore ... I have traveled this country coast to coast so many times I can't count them ... My bipolar has kicked my ass ... but I am still alive
Why do I cry when I listen to this stuff ... Can anyone tell me ...
I had a few cassettes some Deadhead gave me in Santa Fe ... and a walkman... no idea what dates the shows were ... kept me sane when I thought life's journey was ending ...
Please don't take these recordings off the internet ... I don't have any other way to make it through life
Subject: Top 10! (sorry Dr. Flashback)
The first set is very well played, with stellar versions of 1/2-Step and Loser, with Loser possibly being the best version I've ever heard. Jerry's mid-song solo is just exactly perfect, and he puts more emotion into it than I've ever heard in a '77 version. Also, while I'm not a big fan of LL Rain, this one is one of my favorites, and one of the few versions I don't skip, as the whole show flows so well together.
The second set is pure magic. The setlist should say it all, but setlists can be decieving. Not here, as every song is played to perfection, and I dare anyone to name a better Help>Slip>Franklin's of the 70's. Sure, there may be better Helps(5/22/77,) or Franklin's(I seriously doubt it,) but there are no better versions of the entire suite. 9/27/76 comes extremely close, but it's broken up by an Other One and Wharf Rat, so I don't know if that counts. Either way, it's breathtaking.
The St. Stephen here, coming out of an excellent Estimated Prophet, is just plain awesome, with an extended guitar solo at the beginning of the song, extremely rare for '77 Stephens. The first verse doesn't start for over 2 minutes! Very well-executed, and one of the few mid-late 70's versions I'd put up there with a '68 or '69. And while the NFA is great, it's not on the level of 5/8 or 9/3, but you can hardly give it a strike for that.
The Terrapin is played to perfection, which means it's also one of the best ever, as they rarely jammed it out during this era, so the best versions are the ones with the least amount of mistakes, and with the most emotion-filled singing from Jer Bear. Well, this is the one then. It's absolutely beautiful.
From beginning to end, a true classic.
Charlie Miller, as always, is God. Okay, A God.
Subject: a gift
The first set is great and there are moments where you'll be even briefly laughing at how fun the music is. But the second set... out of this world. There's not much I can say. I'm not one to pit shows against each other so I'm not going to compare this to Cornell or anything else from '77 or any other era. But rest assured, this is worth devoting three hours of your time, however precious it may be. Trust me, you won't regret it.
p.s. I have found that, although it's sometimes interesting, I never completely enjoy the dead unless I'm completely sober. Getting high is fun and all, but it makes me too stupid to pay attention to these guys. This show is such a gem that those who usually self-"enhance" might find it worthwhile to listen to this one clean.
Subject: this is definitely grate stuff
Subject: simply the gratest
Subject: This could be the best show posted on the archive
Is it even possible to say there exists one shining performance that, if stranded in a wrecked space-capsule on some distant Orb and confronted with tonally-perceptive Others and having only one Max EP, we would share as a peace offering and an example that both species could get down together? Or is there a category of the highest-degree (5 stars) that collectively represents the 'Greatest Possible' and all within the category share that designation, being equal?
I believe in the 5 stars. But I also feel there are a few examples deserving a 6th star. Or maybe a top-5 list (which would eventually evolve into a top-6000 list). Or perhaps, there is a 'TGSE'.
Then I'll open the debate here, nominating 060977 as the best. But the vault is vast you say. How can such a huge comparison be made? Well, it must begin somewhere. Set this one against 010272 (another fine coordinate) perhaps and see.
I've been a fool for this archive for years, have gone through so many different listening paths it's obsessively ridiculous, have listened to so many hours of shows it'd make your ass hurt.
A previous reviewer found some weakness in the first set with an absence of big breakers. Another reviewer saw continuity with the previous The Who run, observing power and energy. I find a simple purity and consideration on this night. If my wayward capsule is speeding across space and time en route to some strange liason with auditory intellect, Captain, set my course with the coordinates 060977.
Subject: Best Help>Slip>Franklin's
Phil's bass is more active than ever. Bobby is constantly audible and dropping his reggae-twang riffs as well as many good power-strum moments. Donna and Bobby are harmonizing absolutely beautifully with a lead vocal Jerry. The vocals are beyond amazing and better than most 75 versions. As for Keith, he proves to everyone that he could still throw down in as hard as in his 73' days. Right on! Amazing, a must listen for everyone.
Subject: The BEST show ever that I don't even remember!
Subject: My, oh my my my
But starting with Help!>Slipknot>Franklin's all the way through to the end of the show, the band cooks.
Great quality, tight and energetic performances all around. The lack of first set killers brings this one down to 4 out of 5 for me, though.
Subject: Half Step Super Duper Toodleoo
Subject: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Terrapin
Well, Terrapin Station, of course! Why didn't I think of that?!
This is a rockin' second set list. Very spiritual. Full of Samsons, Delilahs, Saints named Stephen, and a very special place called, Terrapin Station.
Wow! This one will take you into another dimension for a while. A very special recording. Biblical and Free!
Subject: Five Stars For Nostalgic Values Warranted
In January 77 I read that the GD were playing Winterland for 3 nights in March. I got tix for all 3, and all 3 were great. Then, when I read that the Dead were going to be back at Winterland in June, I was wondering if the Dead would top their March run. I got tix for all 3.
The March run had been a complete metamorhosis from the Who show. The GD were like a whole other band 5 months later. It was as if the Who had rubbed off and now the Dead was this power-surged supergroup with new found energy. But could they ever top the March run? Yes, and it seems to me that each night's successive show was merely a fine seamed tapestry, one contributing and blending and building upon another until the point of spontaneous combustion.
Oh, and how!!! they did it. This new found Dead was not a fluke. This three night run in June was even more psyche altering. They not only topped the March run in spades, but each night was better, and this was the peak of the peak night.
Of the 100 shows in SF I attended, The only show of this particular mock up of the Grateful Dead that tops this show is the one on 12-29-77. After the March run, then the Movie, then the June run, it just didn't seem possible for them to top themselves. The December run was really tremendous, but you could tell they were tired and a little green around the gills. The December run didn't command the oomph that these June shows exhibited.
To me, the band's fabulous and energetic 1977 was kind of the death knell for the band. Very quickly, in 1978, this again became a job to them and it again became a business. But 1977 was the year for consistent energetic arena rock with a verve they hadn't presented in quite a while. Oh, yes, there were many tremendous shows afterwards, and throughout the remaining career ~ don't get me wrong, but I am speaking from a perspective of nostalgia. Nostalgia only recalls what it wishes to recall. Unless, of course, you are able, 30 years to the day, to hear this masterpiece and revel in it all over again.
There is a difference. Then, we saw darkly, as thru a glass, but now we see all. Except, perhaps having eyes wide open isn't all it is cracked up to be. Fate be damned. Hence we set the controls thirty years hence and paint, cut, or copy ourselves into the tunnelvision diorama of June 9, 1977.
Winterland comes alive and lives again!
Subject: Its all here
Subject: One of My Favorites
Out of hundreds of outstanding shows to listen to, this show is one that I continually go back to and listen to time and time again. The sound quality and playing is superb. The whole first set is excellent, but I've always been a second set person. From the Help On The Way> Slipknot!> Franklin's Tower, Estimated Prophet-> Saint Stephen-> Not Fade Away-> Drums-> Saint Stephen, I am always reminded of why I love this band so much. This show is pretty close to perfect for me and definitely in my top 10 all-time. Keep On!
finest, the lovely Ms. Donna Jean Godchaux!!!!
Subject: Anyone know . . .
Subject: Good times
Subject: Remember why its in my favorites
Subject: Monster Help>Slip>Frank
What makes this so great? It's not just the inspired setlist (Estimated->St. Stephen->NFA->St. Stephen->Terrapin anyone?) and it's not just the ultra tight and energetic 1977 playing, it's 'what makes the Grateful Dead so special?' on 3 cds.
Alright, so maybe the first set isn't totally mind-blowing, but after that smokin' Samson and Delilah, the 'Help>Slip>Franks' is about as epic as they come. 'Estimated' is cool and funky as hell, the Stephen>NFA>Stephen>Terrapin>Sugar Mag sequence is as hot as it sounds. Awesome.
This is a must-have and definately worth downloading the AUD version.
Subject: Sheer delight
& thanks, otherdeadhead
Subject: how to download
it should say http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-06-09.28614.sbeok.flac16
highlight "details" and change it to "download" and hit enter. up comes a list of all the files. right click on each one of them and go "save file as..." only mp3's are downloadable, not the shn's.
btw, this a great show. enjoy it:)
Subject: Holy Cow
Drop me an email..email@example.com
I thought I'd downloaded this show but I guess I didn't. Oh well..hopefully I can find it somewhere. But..this HAS to be one of the all time best. Right now after my third run through of the show I have to say that it is my all time
favorites. Not a dull moment anywhere.
have any idea what to do?
Subject: You're in Luck
You can get it if you really want...
Subject: need some help
can streamed concerts be put on an ipod?
any help would be good post a review
unbeleivable show by the way
Subject: The music is everyone's...
Subject: like it, love it
Subject: So precise
Subject: wrong review
Subject: Out Of Body Experience
Subject: What a long, strange, great trip 1977 was!
Subject: ya know
........I have nothing more to say but it is unbalanced somehow. The whole thing is that I get lovd back. If I don't get back what I've given.......I've lost my heart for this band.
Subject: A similar version
Subject: Better than most commercial releases
Sound quality is excellent, better than a lot of commercial stuff and on par with the rest.
The setlist is strong. I'm not really picky with setlists and most (maybe all) of the '77 stuff appeals to me. Anything that does not include Dancin' is fine by me.
Donna is okay and really doesn't get in the way, which is as much as you can ask from her IMO. This version of Sunrise does not compare to 5/22/77 but it's not something I'm ever inclined to skip over either; it's a good listen.
Energy is good, the band is definitely on. There are a lot of excellent moments in this show with no one part really standing out to me, just a very solid, strong show throughout.
Bottom Line: This show is excellent, better than a lot of commercial stuff and on par with the rest. I could see this being packaged up and sold in the future. I've listened to a lot of '77 Dead and this is up there with the best shows of the year. I would put it behind 5/22 but only because of the amazing 2nd set on 5/22. Listen to this show and you will not be disappointed. Get a copy if you can, you will not be disappointed.
Subject: This is It
does'nt get any better. Being at this show It was a godsend. Long Live the Dead!
Subject: Top of the Mountain
It's well known that the spring 77 tour was a hit, this was the cherry on top of the sunday. Loser is sweet, Jerry's Solo in Sunrise is not to be missed, Mississipi is better than Boston Garden, yes it is, while Franklin's Tower seems to justify any two drumer wows for the year, and is one of a kind, they stop on a dime and then just tear it up, intoxicating.
email me at firstname.lastname@example.org happy to share with good listeners
Subject: a must have
stars: solid 4.5
sound: solid 5
Subject: On The Day When I was Born....
Subject: Jerry solos in TLEO
Top notch prime Dead.
Subject: Very Sweet
This is great show to listen to if you are interested in hearing Bobby's amazing and innovative playing.
As a side note, I just finished reading both Phil's book and What a Long Strange Trip and think it is funny that the Spring/Summer of 77 is very much glossed over. It makes me think that the band may have felt stagnated at this time, while the fans were enjoying the fruits of a soild interplay between players. Two sides of the same coin, I guess.
Subject: A Sacred Holy Cow!!!
Subject: Need it
Everyone should have acess to this music when and where they choose to listen.
Subject: Another best of year
The sound is clear and balanced, and the set list is like a best of '77.
Subject: Do yaself a Favah!
Subject: A Show To Be Reckoned With
Subject: All Time Top 10?
All that said, this is just a sick sick show. The just exactly perfect 1/2 step is one of, if not THE hottest 1/2 steps of '77 (right up there with the Englishtown Raceway version). See also the TLEO and MNS as the highlights of the 1st set (I'm not a big LL Rain or Sunrise fan).
The 2d set produces the #1 HSF of all time, it's just that simple. While 5/9 is strong, it just does not hold a candle to this version. The Slipknot nods in the general direction of stronger than dirt from Kezar March 75 and spirals around phil's ever present carpet bomb boomlets, flirting with avant garde jazz themes and generally kicking the ass of any listener who dares enter the Dead's creative realm. Jerry's voice on Franklin's is pure honey and the bop diddy bop bounce of the bass line and the guitar leads that stretch fo'ever ... wow. 31 plus minutes when all is said and done. Even as Franklin's is melting away, Phil goes Hiroshima to announce the onset of Estimated (sub woofer be forewarned) and Jerry just LEEEEANS on that wa wa. Some might say that Estimated was overplayed in '77 (and you might have a point) but part of that overplaying allowed for alot of experminentation with the tune, this is a hot version. The Stephen>NFA>Stephen does not match the aforementioned Barton Hall version (then again NO version does) but it's still hot hot hot .. and even more so as they seque into a hot Terrapin Station>Sugar Mags closer. Double encore, what more could you want?
In a year of so many ridiculously great shows, this TRULY stands apart. Do yourself (and your ears) a favor and get this show, POST HASTE.
Subject: Steve Marcus
Great story. These discs do come directly from the vault master reels (I can confirm that there are no extra cass gens involved). Also, you know me (probably just by face and not by name). You hooked me up a lot in 93. Thanks!!!!
Subject: One of The Best Shows!
Thanks for the upgrade, Charlie Miller and the Archive/Etc.
Holy Cow! sums it up nicely but just to be fair, here's a sampling of the reviews of this show got from the other source:
July 28, 2005
Reviewer: Tampa Red
Subject: GDTS Royalty is in the house
Hey Steve, thanks for all those filled orders over all those years! Really appreciate the New Year's Tickets in 1990, and those seats four rows from the stage for my last show at Tampa Stadium in 1995. Without the mail order, I wouldn't have seen even a tenth of the shows I saw. Thanks for helping me have the most fun I ever had!
July 24, 2005
Subject: 6/9/77 When I truely got ON THE BUS!
I had been seeing the Grateful Dead on and off since May of 1967 (I had first seen Jerry Garcia perform in 1961 with Robert Hunter at my elementary school, I was 8 1/2). I went to the 6/7/77 show and was blown away, so I decided to go back for the 6/9/77. I came away absolutely stunned and to this day it is probably the best Grateful Dead show I've ever been too, or at least in the top 3-5. I craved this show, but didn't actually get a tape of it until 1979 when I got a really bad audience tape from a co-worker at BASS tickets in Oakland named David Gans. I lived with that tape until 1983 when I started working for the Grateful Dead (setting up Grateful Dead Ticket Sales). After about two or three weeks there, Phil Lesh came up to me in the kitchen of the main office and told me that everyone was happy to have me there and gave me his home phone number and told me to call him if he could ever help me. I thanked him and sheepishly asked him if it would be possible to get tapes of some shows out of the vault. He said sure as long as I didn't go crazy. I told him I was only interested in one show and that was 6/9/77. He said he would work on it. About three weeks later a little package was left in my mail slot at the office, it contained cassette copies directly off the vault masters of 6/7/77, 6/8/77 & 6/9/77 with a note from Phil saying that he forgot which night I wanted so he had copies of all three made. Well, I had never heard such sound quality of a live Dead show that had not been on record. In fact, in the beginning of the Grateful Dead Hour Gans used my copies for the show. I still have those tapes and I have burned them all directly from the cassette's to CD. I don't know if this copy comes from mine, but it still sounds great!!!!
June 25, 2005
Subject: yes it is yes it is
we are apparently going to debate between the 5-9-77 H-S-F and this one for a long long time, I will admit that the difinitive virsion of Help was played in Buffalo, but Slipknot thru Franklins Tower was mastered at the Winterland. See, Buffalo ain't as lame duck as it might seen, One Dead President, and one Smokin Help, a pretty slow 76 years in between but well worth it. This "i repeat" this is the stuff dick's picks should be made of, sure it's well curculated, but it's got pitch problems and a cut here and there. released as a pick, provided the vault copy is healthyer??? who wouldn't want an upgrade of this one?! post the obscurites for the hardcore heads to sift through, remaster and sell the cannons! 77 stars
June 24, 2005
Subject: High energy
High energy from start to finish. Great first set, incredible second set. In my opinion, one of the best Gd show ever.
June 22, 2005
Reviewer: andrew m
This is a great show all the way through... Very strong Half-Step to open, with Cassidy, Deal and MNS very strong in the first set as well, but the real beauty of this show is the gem of a second set... Samson is smokin' as always, but the Help>Slip>Frank is just about the best thing ever... This Slipknot kicks so much ass... Way, way out there, and back strong into an all-timer of a Franklins... But we're only just beginning.. Check out Phil's huge intro to Estimated... Blow the walls down, will ya? And from there, the rest of the setlist speaks for itself... Good stuff all the way through...
May 26, 2005
Reviewer: august 1031
This is a monster version of my favorite suite of songs, @10 minutes longer than the 5-09-77 a month earlier which for me is the definative version. This performance of Help starts off with a quick pace and great energy moves pretty quickly into a long spacey Slip. Franklins is very long at 17 minutes and does contain some great moments especially the last 4 minutes or so which wrap up the song in a nice breezy relaxed fashion. Anyway the show is a definate 5 star, the help slip frank is a 4, it just meanders a bit to much for my tastes but thats probably why some folks love it so much. For other great performances of helpslipfrank check out 5-9-77 (the Sound Board offered on this site is one of the best!),8-13-75,10-09-76,and to hear a great later version try 6-14-91(view from the vault 2).
May 07, 2005
Subject: Pure Energy
The energy on this Franklin's Tower is out of this world. Listen to Jerry urging on the band and the crowd. Great show. A month to the day after the phenomenol buffalo Help>Slip>Franklins.
May 04, 2005
Subject: incredible show
well, this could be one of the best GD show ever. no need to say more, I've been looking for this dream show for years.
April 12, 2005
Subject: MNS = Heat
I have only listened to the first set so far. It doesn't really pick up until Deal, which is decent. Then LL Rain is a semi-snore. Then...THE HEAT! One of the best MNS's I have ever heard. I can't wait to hear set II!!! I will update my review when I'm done listening, but for now, 5 stars for no mistakes, great sound (except the Sunrise patch from a degraded SBD) and a SMOKIN' MNS!
March 17, 2005
Subject: Estimated>St. Stephen
amazing segue between the two songs and this is definitely one of the more challenging transitions that they could attempt...it's one of those Dead moments in which you have to listen to the musical passage repeatedly...excellent...Help Slip Franklins features one of the best Slipknots played...awesome quality
February 04, 2005
Subject: incredible show but.
If i had not just got done listening to 10/11/77, it would be spectacular. Sorry to say the Hlp>SLP>FNKLNS from october absolutely laid the song to rest,as it was not revived until the 80s. Not to take away from the version here, its ashame i l;istened to the m back to back. If you havnt yet, please DL 10/11/77 lol I never said this H/S/F didnt smoke!
December 22, 2004
Subject: THE Best!
I have a copy of the cassette from the vault (Thanks, Steven Marcus!), and in my humble opinion, this is the best show I have ever heard. No less than David Gans says that he never gets tired of hearing this show. The second set is pure magic. If you don't have this show, download it NOW!...:-)
December 08, 2004
Well I haven't heard 10/11, but I had this on cassette and its one of my favorites. Set 2 is a monster. It seems as though the band was pissed off about the technical difficulties and when they finally kick into the Help on the way it's with a vengeance. In my mind it seems as though the band is powered by a healthy helping of fine columbian powder if you know what I mean. Probably the most aggressive uptempo version I've heard. I have to say this one and the One from the Vault version from 75 are my favorites. Oh yeah the sound quality is superb and the song selection is excellant. Worth the download for set 2 alone. ps - check out 1-22-78, no help slip franklins, but another juicy set 2.
November 01, 2004
Is insane....this help>slip>franklin's SMOKES 10/11/77. It's my favorite of the year....Jerry absolutly TEARS it up after the third and fourth verses. Def check out this cassidy and st. stephen as well.
August 21, 2004
Subject: outrageous show
I got my first copy of this as an audience in '82 and played this until it fell apart - repaired it and then a beer fell on it at a frat party and it was curtains from there so thanks to whomever it was that donated this!! As a funny aside my copy had a dude that had eaten way way too much acid and was just ranting out requests the whole first set - by the time finiculi finicula rolled around with a last gasp he howled 'play anything... play anything.... I don't caaaaaruuh'- been there pal someone stole the face right off ur head. Not to be long-winded but this show is worth it half step opener usually a good sign, music... sampson and the rest of the 2nd set clear through just explode with musical energy. If anyone ever tries to explain why we love this band so much start them with this..... enjoy, I sure have+
May 28, 2004
Subject: second set = amazing
I don't think the first set is all that amazing, but the second set is one of the best I've ever heard. It combines all of the best songs that were normally put in the second sets of '77 (other than of course scarlet>fire) with some awesome playing.
May 21, 2004
Reviewer: John Hell
Subject: Damn good show
One of my top five fave's for theyear. Get this show just to hear Bobby count down the end of Slipnot!
April 16, 2004
Subject: An all-time great
Awesome from start to finish. Many people's all time favorite, including Steve Marcus of the Dead's staff (i.e. he should know :-). Second set is one of the truly perfect jams, but first set is great too. Garcia is just eloquent thruout. Check out previous nite 6-8 too. First nite of the run 6-7 is totally outclassed by these too.
April 12, 2004
Reviewer: dr. flashback
Subject: top 5!
The Dead played 3 runs at Winterland in 1977 - March,June and Dec.and all are worth collecting.This was their last show of the June run and their last summer show for 1977! Do they pull out all the stops? You betcha! The 1st Set is short but high energy playing throughout. Even Sunrise is good! But the 2nd Set is unbelieveable. One of the best Help>Slipknots of 1977, with a St.Stephen>NFA>St.Stephen that rivals Cornell 5/8/77. And a Terrapin to boot! One of the Doctor's top 5 for 1977. Play this one going down the road sometime - you'll get there! Dr. Flashback :-)